Why doesn’t anyone want Myles Turner? Analysis of Pacer’s Big Man Strengths, Weaknesses, Contracts and Values ​​in the Trade Market

On the seventh day, God created a trading rumor from Myles Turner.

OK, Turner hasn’t been in trade rumors that long, although it sometimes seems like it. “The Deal Zone” didn’t even exist in 2018, when Turner said he would “see.” [rumors] all the time, and people said it was a “sure thing” that he would be moved.

With the Pacers undergoing a clear rebuild over the past year, moving Domantas Sabonis, Malcolm Brogdon, Caris LeVert and others, it’s a little odd that Turner is still on the team.

So… how good is Turner when no one has initiated a trade for him?

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Myles Turner is one of the best big man defensemen in the NBA

Turner has never made an all-defensive team, but he should probably have several times. He is one of the top shot blockers in the league and has led the league in that statistical category twice in the last four years.

Many of the best shot blockers in the league sacrifice good positioning in their attempts to get as many shots as possible. Turner doesn’t fall into that camp. It doesn’t foul at an unusually high rate, and it has solid fundamentals that back up its elite off-rim deterrent.

It measures itself as one of the best rim protectors in the BBall Index metrics.

Versatility is the name of the game for big men in the NBA playoffs, and Turner brings a touch of that, too. He’s mostly one drop sized, but he’s been hedging more hard and playing shallower drops in recent years. He moves his feet well around the perimeter.

In short, Turner is in contention for the best Big Man defender outside of Rudy Gobert. He’s the defensive anchor every team is looking for.

Myles Turner’s reputation for weak rebounds is only partially justified

The only wart on Turner’s defensive play is his lack of rebounding ability. For a player his size (6-11, 250 pounds), a career average of 6.7 rebounds per game is a little disappointing. The Pacers were a bottom-third defensive rebound team for most of Turner’s era outside of his rookie year.

Turner isn’t as bad a rebounder as his raw numbers suggest. When Sabonis was on the ground with him, he had to watch the edge quite a bit, putting him in a bad position to bounce off.

Turner is also a diligent boxer, ranking 14th in boxouts per game according to 2021-22 NBA tracking data. While he doesn’t snag a lot of rebounds himself, he’s at least doing his job of keeping opponents off the glass.

Myles Turner is offensively mixed

The idea of ​​Turner as an attacking player is fascinating. There aren’t many 6-11 players who can skillfully distribute the ground, pull out opposing centers and also dominate from the inside.

Unfortunately, in practice, Turner only does about half of that.

The main weapon in Turner’s offensive arsenal is the pick and pop 3 pointer, but he just doesn’t hit enough of those shots. He had a bad year, hitting just 33.3 percent of his 3-point attempts last season. That’s not much less than his career mark of 34.9 percent, though. That’s a respectable number, but it’s clear teams aren’t really scared of Turner bombing away.

A big part of Turner’s triples are candid looks. Of the 179 players who shot at least 100 open 3-pointers last season (classified as seven-plus yards according to NBA tracking data), Turner ranked 35th in terms of the percentage of his shots that passed were open. He met only 32.5 percent of those open looks. He posted similar numbers last season.

Turner’s inability to punish defenses for falling off him has major repercussions. With defenders willing to help him out, it becomes more difficult for his teammates to score goals. And Turner’s other main offensive ability, attacking closeouts, becomes much less effective if defenders don’t close him down hard.

When Turner drops the shot, he looks amazing. At the start of last season he lost 40 points due to a varied repertoire of moves.

Most of the time, this 3-point gravity isn’t there. He’s also somewhat limited as a playmaker, meaning if he catches the ball on the touchline there’s not much he can do other than make easy reads.

If Turner ever becomes a consistent 3-point threat, the prospects for his offensive prowess will be a lot brighter. He’s improved as a finisher on the edge, according to stats at Cleaning the Glass. He’s also steadily improved in post, ranking in the 89th percentile last season.

(Via Cleaning the Glass)

What does it all matter? Turner’s value is extremely high on defense. And even with a jump shot that looks better in theory than it does in practice, it’s not bad offensively.

He’s a top 50 player in my opinion. That’s close to All-Star consideration, but he could be a very good starter for a championship contender.

What is Myles Turner’s contract situation?

Turner has a cheap contract. He’s in the final year of his deal and will only make $18 million next season. That puts him 76th on the league’s player payroll list.

It is a very flexible fair value contract.

Why wasn’t Myles Turner traded?

Gymnast is the type of player that every competitive team could use. The Pacers don’t really have much use for his services given their rebuild schedule and are clearly buying him in.

He also seemed unenthusiastic about his role on the team, as reported by The Athletic’s Jared Weiss last season.

“It’s clear that I’m no longer valued here as a glorified role player, and I want something more, more opportunity,” Turner told Weiss. “I’m trying really hard to make the role I’m given here work and find a way to maximize it. I’ve been trying for the last two or three seasons.

“But I realize numerically I’m no more rated as a rotary role player, and I rate myself higher.”

Again…why wasn’t he sent away?

The answer seems to be that there is interest in him, but the Pacers are waiting for the maximum possible return. Markus SchindlerIndy Cornrows podcast host shared his insight.

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“More just my guess [and] Assumption, but based on reports it appears the Pacers were pretty far from other teams in terms of what they’re asking for in exchange for Myles,” Schindler said [Sabonis] Trading was taking place, making it a bit grayer whether that trading would happen or not.

“Then towards the end of the year he dealt with the foot injury which also undoubtedly affected his commercial value before the draft.”

Tony EastAuthor and host of the Locked on Pacers podcast added similar sentiments.

“Injuries in recent seasons are a big factor and Turner has fallen short of his perception as a shooter,” East said. “He would be much better in a competitive team. … But the teams he would be best on don’t always have the resources or capital to actually act for him.”

Turner still seems like a decent bet to be moved at some point. As his contract expires, it’s unclear if the Pacers would bring him back once he achieves an unrestricted free hand next summer.

There will be a lot of teams bidding for his services so it makes more sense to postpone him now rather than lose him later for nothing.

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